The people in this video do make some good points, especially about how Prof. Dawkins and Chris Hitchens allude to persons of faith being some how deluded. I do NOT share this view. However the speakers in this video are wrong to portray 'atheism' as some sort of disease that must be stamped out. I too, have very GOOD reasons for the world view I have. i did not wake up one morning and say: "Hey! I'm mad at God I guess I'm an atheist now!" Nor was i taken into some classroom at University and indoctrinated into atheism. This was a LONG slow and educational process for me. Nobody likes to have strawmen built from misunderstandings of their world view.
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I think that the video takes a very slanted view of New Atheism. It misrepresents us as angry with God which, of course, is impossible for someone who doesn't believe in God.
I don't know how we dispel the asinine idea that atheists are mad at god and that's why we don't believe. Like you, my deconversion process IS long, and tedious. I say IS, because I see it as a continuous process of skeptical inquiry.
FYI, it's difficult to hear the audio in the movie clip because of the background music of your blog.
I appreciate the heads up...
However on the side bar under "Robert's Playlist" is the imeem player and you can pause the playback of the playlist! ;-)
Toodles,
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Robert....I hope your goodbye, wasn't for good...I thought we could discuss anything? If I offended I'm sorry, just my point of view...sigh...makin me sad dude.. :(
One of the things I related to in this clip was how the man felt bad for not knowing enough about the Christian camp when the other knew plenty, so to speak, of his. Before I "met" you, Hov and Ed I had a very limited and skewed view and opinion of Atheists. I lumped you in to one pile of intolerance. Isn't that terrible? And I am so sorry for that. I greatly respect you because you're you! You're people! You're valuable. You're intelligent. And I have learned so much from all of you!
How do you feel about this clip labeling Atheism as a new religion. It seems to me you wouldn't agree with that much. Wrong?
And you're right...we're really not deluded....much! ;-)
GG & Tam
Thanks for stopping by.
When I said 'good bye' I was ending my discourse on the current thread.
I think there comes a point when we'll just have to agree to disagree. I just wanted to bow out before I engaged in some sort of ad hominem attack, which sometimes Jason brings out of me. ;-)
Worry not I'll be a thorn in your sides for a long time to come!
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I am surprised. This was a pretty thoughtful video. I didn't see or hear them talking about atheism as some sort of disease that needs eradicating, though. I have heard Harris, Dawkins and Hithcens talk that way.
I think Christians worry too much about that trio. They are merely working on the same level as Lee Stroebel and Josh McDowell, pop-theology. Certainly they are not as thoughtful as Zacharias,Lewis and Chesterton. But again, I don't think any of those folks, Christian or theist really convince deep thinkers to convert to either side. Geisler is right, most people have a Sunday school knowledge of the faith, but more importatnly it is a voyeuristic faith in which most people watch those with 'vocations' do the real God stuff.
BTW Rob, watching you over on GG's site. Though I don't agree with everything (but quite a bit of) you've said you are presenting yourself very well in the face of very heavy suppressing fire. Good job.
Adios (God go with you)
Christian
I appreciate your comments!
I engage with my theistic breathren because I think it important to try to convey my side while trying to understand theirs.
Sometimes I do better than other times.
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